What happened to having a positive mind for Shapelle? That's what she needs (especially from Australians).. put yourself in her shoes and think of what support you would want from your home country. I wish her all the best and hopefully things will turn around for her.

In what way am i not being supportive of Schapelle Corby!!? I just suggested that Australia should invade Indonesia over this matter!!! Are we both talking about the same article?!!?

Ok so i gave her some very useful advice in the first couple of sentences of my post that some might people might construe as impolite. So what!? I am trying to help the stupid bitch!!

i do not believe she is a drug frafficer or had any knowwledge of the contents.let her return to aust.

i do not believe she is a drug frafficer or had any knowwledge of the contents.let her return to aust.

This whole shambles is a disgrace it is like a clown act at the circus, if it wasn't for the deplorable treatment of poor Shapelle and the fact that the Indonesions may kill her, they could probably sell the whole episode to Comedy Central.
It's a sham even a blind monkey could see whats going on.
Get off your fat ARSES, POLITICIANS AND PRESSURE GROUPS if you never do anything else in your careers help to facilitate to save this young Australian woman anymore torment.

Yes, there are more things can be done about her. No, she is not that innocent I think. probably not guilty but just dumb. Invade Indonesia? ok go ahead, we'll see. 20K oz troops meet up with 200K Indonesian troops, not to mention an additional 500K Jihaders. It would be fun.

Shapelle Corby has been used unwittingly!Those indonesian bastards make me sick.Its alright for us to come to their relief following the bali bombings,tsunami, yeah no worries take our millions of dollars and set up australian tourists who keep your corrupt country going because you wouldnt have a fucking clue how to.

I hope the indonesians will keep in mind the effect a guilty verdict should have on Australian tourist numbers.

What about Michael Jackson? Let's lobby for a celebrity.

Alternatively, watch M*A*S*H* 5pm weekdays on Seven.

Whoever wrote this article, you should be ashamed of yourself. I hope one day you end up with 4kgs of dope in your bag and have your head blown off. I am suprised that with such narrowminded and poorly informed opinions that you are actually capable of setting up a web site and writing an article. People like you make me ashamed to be Australian. Seriously.

I think she's serious.

Well i say lets blow the fucken flat nosed fukkers they call indonesions away, they stink, they fukked and they sell shit to brain dead ozzies who think their country is better than oz, i say fuk the rice eaters

i agree with sarah. You should really be ashamed of yourself.
Every time i read an article on her i feel like crying, just imagine what she is going through, though when i came to your article,i was dumbstruck.
How could a fellow aussie write such slanderous things about someone, who he dose not know, thats is in need desperatly of help. We all need to have faith in her. imagine if it was your sister, mother or girlfriend in her place..(well scratch girlfriend,i will be a typing parrot if a c*ck head like you could pull a chick)
Your a poor unit, sort yourself out, find some compassion, or help.
FREE SHAPPELLE CORBY!!
BTW u did attempt to fight her cause, you blew it as soon as you started togive your opinion, She is not a pot head, nor a hairdresser.. She is a Beautician..
and you sir are a Looser.

Oh dear,I think the majority of your readership are illiterate, humourless fucks. They must have been the ppl who came with the Sunday Times mention.

I would like to say a big high five! to Alex and John for a tip top job well done. You continue to fuck up international relations good and proper- youre consistent if nothing else. Also a big thumbs up to the head police guy in AUs who did the prosecutions job for them and said that Shapelles defense was all hearsay. Why dont you just go there and shoot her yourself?

I guess tho John and co look vindicated for their racist immigration policies and if one beautician is all that is needed to sacrifice for the cause of the aussie national pride then she should take it like an Aussie and be shot to shit by the nasty, archiac, smelly asians who we so generously help (by way of big fat LOANS- not donations) despite them being backward loonies hell bent on killing beautiful girl aussies.

That got a bit deeper than i had expected.

Fuck the foreign minister.

Poor Shapelle- this is so not cool for her.

However, being a whingy 'wangst, you ought to be ashamed of yourself' incessent slapper about observational satire is so dumb and unhelpful, Sarah and kelli. Jesus. Why is it that any time a chick posts on this site she says something stupid? Go sign a petition or something and come back when you actually have a real opinion that you didnt theive from Cosmo. I mean, in all honesty did you not read this article? You cant have read the same article that i just read! kfjghslhjkvlfjknghbksgja- that is my brain frying with astonishment that i experience when i read your posts- could you misunderstand this any more?

All the best!

To whoever is the author of " Captain's Blog"......
You are a truly vile piece of works. To have such contempt for a woman in Chapelle Corby's position is simply beyond reason.
May I suggest you find something better to do with your keyboard in future.
Tony Harvey.

I would be more then happy to ram it up your fucking arse Tony.

Could youse cunts go to some trouble to learn how to spell "Schapelle"? I did.

This really is a storm in a teacup. I'm just speculating that perhaps "Schapelle" could be a hardcore stoner. I mean it's hardly a crazy conclusion to draw. The woman was found with a few kilos of marijuana in her boogey board after all.

Why do all you people just assume Schapelle is not guilty? As has been stated previously....the facts stand that she was found with the marijuana in her boogie board bag. Why is it so inconceivable that she was not smuggling drugs? Have you looked at her 'friends' who were accompanying her on her trip, who quite possibly could have secreted the drugs in the bag with or without her knowledge? There is also the fact that she was singled out by customs at the airport as someone who looked 'suspicious' and 'nervous'...the reason the drugs were found in the first place. Schapelle is also on the record as having identified the plastic bag as having contained marijuana - thus she is not as innocent as people would have you believe. Could you identify marijuana unless you had been exposed to it previously? I do believe that Schapelle will not receive a fair trial in Indonesia, and will likely be found guilty, whether or not she truly is. I also believe the Indonesia legal system is seriously flawed and corrupt, but unfortunately without some serious Government measures (which are not likely to be forthcoming) this is not likely to change. Bad luck Schapelle - you are well and truly 'fucked'.

Rather than use something like "Wangst McPants" or whatever, I'm happy to tell you my name. It's Tony Harvey.

Does anyone on this website realise the gravity of this situation? OK. Let's say Schapelle Corby dies by firing squad. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO WRITE THEN? "Schapelle is even MORE fucked?"

ANY ONE of us could be in her position! Do you understand that? Does this website actually originate from Australia? My first entry was greeted by someone wanting to "ram it up my arse" because I spelled Schapelle's name incorrectly.

I stumbled upon this website in an attempt to find out what I could possibly do to help a clearly innocent victim.

Boy. Was I wrong.

Tony Harvey.

Shapelle Corby is innocent and I think it is disgusting that the Indonesian Government has kept her over there in that filthy jail for so long. If she was really a drug trafficker, she wouldn't just shove drugs so carelessly in her body board bag like that, it would be too obvious. I know I am only one person, but my protest would be (if they do anything to hurt her) is I will never ever go to Bali. If they do anything to hurt her then I hope another Tsunami comes along and sweeps them all away, the bastards!!

Actually, they have already hurt her. Think of all the emotional stress and mental anguish at been locked up for 26 weeks. sleeping 8 to a cell, on the floor, with a bucket for the nature calls. Being paraded in front of the press, and having her trial interrupted by protesters screeming for her head. then our government doing s.f.a. for so, so long.
I feel for her. As an indivudial I cant do anything for her, but only hope she gets back to Oz, in one piece, and starts to get her life back on track.

It?’s so nice to see such aficionados on international law contributing to this conversation and such culturally aware citizens we all are. Those bastard Indonesians shouldn?’t be able to run their country their way- they should do it our way, the right way!!! In fact, I think we should see if Mr Bush is not too busy sucking the dicks of conservative pro life campaigners to add them to the axis of evil so we can fuck them right up for being different from us.

Fuck off and make your own website, Tony Harvey, you tool, so I can come make misguided remarks at you.

Congratulations Belinda- you have your little tanty and swear never to go to Bali! High five girlfriend- I?’m with you! I hope the Indonesians all die too because of one debatable miscarriage of justice. All 238.5 million Indonesian people ought to be responsible for the judiciary in their nation and deserve to be wiped out because you said so and you clearly have such a rational grasp on the situation. Belinda for Foreign Minister!

Well, Well, Well. It would apper that the only thing that is likely to save Schapelle Caorby is an "Alias" type escape, but judging from the video of her holding cell that shouldn't be too hard for the SAS or ASIO or the AFP who all have ppl in Indonesia, perhaps they could make a movie about the trial and escape and recoup the costs of the operation.

POTHEAD? you say? how do you now? what evidence? people like you do more harm than good with your unfounded baseless accusations.

Not only do you display to the world how thoughtless and prejudiced you are, you also leave yourself open to legal action for libel and slander.

Better watch out mate....

Oooohoooho....bogans..watchout mate.

You fucking ingnorant fucks. I suggest you get yourself a little item called a dictionary and check out the words SATIRE, slander, libel and an itsy bitsy clause pertaining to FAIR COMMENT. Also have a sneaky peak at the regulation surrounding the internet and then KISS MY ARSE.

While you're there have quick check up on how to spell 'know'- not 'now', ya know?

You ppl are fucking insane- a great joke but still fucking insane.

What compelling evidence do you have that she's NOT a pothead and if its so outstanding then why the fuck aren't you in Dempasar saving her life??? Dickhead. You dont know anymore than anybody else and this is why shes on trial you fucking onion. In the meantime FAIR COMMENT.

Oi death to shapelle damn it. Its those type of people that i dont want my childrem to be near. I mean fuck its bound to catch up to you. Really i mean how far are you gonna get. You leave high school in year 10 then you become a hairdresser. My god how could her parents not see this.

"wont someone think of the children"

Corby is Languishing in a cell along with Azahari and the other terrorist cunts while Bang fuck Yudihono begs for another billion fucking dollars from us to rebuild some shithole cesspool... may God smite them all down...

I'd free corby if she promised to suck my cock.

Dudes, this is yet another excuse and distraction from whats happening around the world - every1 is innocent until proven guilty! We forget about all the thousands of people who die every day in the Middle East and other regions because of our stupid government. America has too much control and Howard is right behind him

Schapelle is innocent and should be set free and not made an example of, stay strong schapelle australia is behind you 100%

I dont believe she did do it, cause she wouldnt be that stupid to traffic drugs in a boogie board ,in a country with the death penalty.

Hey all, well we should all think ourselves lucky that its not our own child over in Bali, I dont think we should be making any asumption and get behind shapelle 100%,GOD BLESS SHAPELLE XX

Commenting to original email:
I get it hehehe. Reading these posts I have not laughed quite so much in a long time, tears and all.
I'm not sure how I would "act" in Schapelle's situation. So to judge if she's a pothead or not by her behaviour is a bit off. travel to Indonese should be boycotted by all Australian's until their Govt. gets a brain cell. Sorry to all the people over their trying to make a living but maybe you should be pressuring your Govt to treat visitors with respect. Thanks for the laugh. Love and Light to Schapelle.

and if your mind is in fast forward don't get so angry at people for not being on the same train. Most people are still waiting at the station and you're expecting them to see what you can see from your window seat.

shappelle corby should be
1. freed fromthe hindu nazi fucks who are holding her against the geneva convention, through the use of extensive nuclear bombing which blows the shit outta that piece of shit country bali and kills ever single one of those terrorist shonky-watch-selling cunts.
2. repatriated to australia where she belongs
3. chained to a big tree in a permberton jarrah forest.
4. burnt to death along with all the trees, or, possible woodchipped
that would teach that druggy bitch. also it would show those fuckin balinese, teach em a lesson for stealing our fucking jobs, from now on well kill our own hairdressers,
whos behind me australia?

ok ok ok this is what we'll do:

everybody read "The Great Escape" ... or if you're like me and cant be fucked sitting through that bible-sized sleeping pill get the movie out and watch that. You should probably also get out "Bridge Over the River Kwai" while your there so you know how asians fight (cos japanese and indonesians are the same because theyre both asian)
then all of us who refuse to accept the possibility that Schapelle Corby will be found innocent by a fair and equitable tribunal of justice will fly to indonesia and pull a bit of fence-jumping-over-of-on-motorcycles to rescue her and bring her safely home to queensland and we can all sit back and relax with a bucketbong.

I don't know if she is guilty or not at first I thought yes because anyone one who has ever been to Bali would know that the customs at Bali Airport are not very strict, her sister lives in Bali so she would have been to Bali very often and would know about the customs at the airport. The Customs Officer who stopped her had seen the borad go into a x-ray machine which is outside the airport where the bags come from the planes. Most girls get past the customs with a smile and a flirt with the customs officers this is well known but this Customs officer had already seen something in the bag. Nowif she knew it was there or not is the thing. I don't think it would have been planted in Bali because where the baggage is unloaded from the container from the plane there are too many people who would be able to see what is going on. If it was planted in Australia I don't know but if it was planted I feel sure it would be in Australia because we are always trying to cut the work force so I would think there would be very few people in Australia loading the baggage and it would be very easy to put something in some ones bag. They said the camera in the loading area at Bris airport was not working on that day...... NOW that sould make all of us feel secure.

she is totally innocent. Who would smuggle 000's of dollars worth of pot into bali, with the result of selling it cheaper than what she would have paid for it.

I hope she is found not guilty, and they find the fuckers who set her up, and then fuck them over!

Truth of the matter folks, Schapelle Corby was actually smuggling boogie boards into Indonesia by ingeniously hiding them in her choof pouch. It has all been blown out of context. ps i think they should resolve this with a King Solomon style test. i.e. Propose splitting the stash into two 2.05 kg halves, and see who balks at the idea. (i'm sure Schapelle well break down in tears and choose conviction rather than see her baby cut in two)

May i just ask what is the Australian punishment for the exact crime if it was committed over here (and yes i know this is not the case) , and for the record i don't believe she did it no body would be so fucking stupid surely

This whole idea of bringing pot to Bali just doesn't make sense. Why would you smuggle something to another place where it is cheaper to get, and risk death for it. I suggest using the Johny Cochron defense tactic for her defense.

If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit!!

Look at the silly monkey!!

I reckon the stupid bitch deserves to die. She's a pothead drug smuggler and they should be shot...I hope the Indonesian Government really shoots the evil bitch, they're just putting it off so all the guards and inmates can fuck her, then giving all the government people a turn

Poetic words, tim.

No Jacko, you can not ask what the punishment is in Australia for the same offence, firstly as you neglected to use a question mark. I guess you could ask that, but, you didn't.

Additionally, had you actually asked that question i seriously doubt that anybody would answer it because it's actually rhetorical. The question you wanted to ask but didnt is also unhelpful, irrelevant and so far beside the point i strained my neck looking at it.

The answer to the question that you facetiously did NOT ask is 'well, clearly its not the death penalty, thanks for asking, i hadnt considered that. My god, we are so liberated and Indoneisan are so backward...etc'

I think you neglect to consider that what Schapelle is being accused of is simply not the same offense if it happend in Australia. That is not two comparable cases. The offense she is accused of,IS an offence by virtue of it occuring in Indonesia. Do you get that? You cannot commit the same crime in Australia. okay?

Question marks next time.

Peace.

That is, if youre caught smuggling drugs into Australia it is very unlikely that you'll be charged with smuggling drugs into Indonesia.

Its easy once you think about it.

Was she a hairdresser in Japan for 4 years? Maybe her ex husband could shed some light on her at the trial.

Australia needs to sort this out, I dont know how but the profile is to high just to leave it up to natural progression. Dont go there dont give them aid and visit Countries like NZ that give you half a chance and would be resonable about all of this.

Schapelle would have to grow the shit herself to make a profit on the Indonesian market. She'd need a couple of acres or a hydro factory. Not fuckin likely. GOD BLESS SCHAPELLE XOX

Well, where to start.
1) Ms. Corby does not have a profile which bears any similarity with your atypical drug traffiker. There is no conceivable reason as to why she would want to carry tbis rubbish into Bali. Apart from the fact that some stuff was found in her boogy board, the police cannot establish a motive, and they cannot establish that she even knew about it. She has made a stand for her innocence, because she is innocent. If you even understood a little of how the indonesion police operate, you will realise that most of their convictions are obtained by coercing a false confession out of some poor confused individual. Ms Corby is not a criminal, but those accusing her are.
2) The fact that the police appear to have destroyed most of the evidence speaks volumes for the fact that it was probably either planted there by an indonesian, or that it is known she is innocent by the indonesian government, but they want to try some behind the wall political bargaining with australia. This type of behaviour is not unknown with Indonesia.
3) given that her lawyer is female and the fact that indonesia is a muslim country, then it is highly unlikely that her lawyer is able to influence a court who will simply favour a male prosector in order to save face. This is a severe prohblem in islamic countries where the opinion of a poorly educated and generally ignorant man is valued over that of an intelligent and thoughtful woman.

3) Ignorant and unnsuportive crap from wankers like you makes me want to fly over to Australia and slit your miserable throat. I dont care what your opinion is, but you have no right to air your ignorance when the life of an INNOCENT australian is hanging on the balance and your pointless comments have the potential to influence some idiotic Indonesian wanker.

If she is not released I will be starting an international campaign to shut down the Indonesion tourist industry, and to force our goverments
and industry to stop supporting these pigs. If you think this is fancful then you simply have no concept of how the press can be manipulated and what an enormous influence the press has. The only way to hurt these bastards is (1) deny them our money or (2) kill them. Since I dont believe in starting a fight, we should only use 2 as an option when Indonesia does something stupid like declare war. Also killin g an indonesion means that the peiod of pain is not long and these bastards should be made to feel pain after what they have done to Ms. Corby and others. The Bali bombers probably got traffic control via the Bali police department. At present the best thing to do is to start shutting down support for Indonesion business interests in Australia and else where. All readers who have a verifiable horror tale about Indonesia and travelling in Indonesia should send a full description to the following email address

[email protected]

If you are not willing to offer help to an inniocent Australain fighting for her life than keep your ignorant and poorly formed opinion to yourself. You can either choose to try and help her. or you can sit in a corner casting stones. Choose the second, and when i have some time I will pay you a visit.

These stories will be collated and then included in various press releases to international newspapers, after permission from contributor has been obtained.
I intent to damage the indonesion economy severely - there can be no justification for the treatment of ms. corby or that of many other hapless individuals trapped by the corrupt and self-serving indonesion government.

Well, where to start.
1) Ms. Corby does not have a profile which bears any similarity with your atypical drug traffiker. There is no conceivable reason as to why she would want to carry tbis rubbish into Bali. Apart from the fact that some stuff was found in her boogy board, the police cannot establish a motive, and they cannot establish that she even knew about it. She has made a stand for her innocence, because she is innocent. If you even understood a little of how the indonesion police operate, you will realise that most of their convictions are obtained by coercing a false confession out of some poor confused individual. Ms Corby is not a criminal, but those accusing her are.
2) The fact that the police appear to have destroyed most of the evidence speaks volumes for the fact that it was probably either planted there by an indonesian, or that it is known she is innocent by the indonesian government, but they want to try some behind the wall political bargaining with australia. This type of behaviour is not unknown with Indonesia.
3) given that her lawyer is female and the fact that indonesia is a muslim country, then it is highly unlikely that her lawyer is able to influence a court who will simply favour a male prosector in order to save face. This is a severe prohblem in islamic countries where the opinion of a poorly educated and generally ignorant man is valued over that of an intelligent and thoughtful woman.

If she is not released I will be starting an international campaign to shut down the Indonesion tourist industry, and to force our goverments
and industry to stop supporting these pigs. If you think this is fancful then you simply have no concept of how the press can be manipulated and what an enormous influence the press has. The only way to hurt these bastards is (1) deny them our money or (2) kill them. Since I dont believe in starting a fight, we should only use (2) as an option when Indonesia does something stupid like declare war. Also killing an indonesion means that the period of pain is not long and these bastards should be made to feel pain after what they have done to Ms. Corby and others. The Bali bombers probably got traffic control via the Bali police department. At present the best thing to do is to start shutting down support for Indonesion business interests in Australia and else where. All readers who have a verifiable horror tale about Indonesia and travelling in Indonesia should send a full description to the following email address

[email protected]

If you are not willing to offer help to an inniocent Australain fighting for her life than keep your ignorant and poorly formed opinion to yourself. You can either choose to try and help her. or you can sit in a corner casting stones. Choose the second, and when i have some time I will pay you a visit. Note that the original article posted by the owner of this site is a severve critism of Indonesia, which is quite right and proper.

Note that any stories sent will be collated and then included in various press releases to international newspapers, after permission from contributor has been obtained.

I intent to damage the indonesion economy severely and irrepairably without resorting to violence (which a typical indoneian turd would do)- and I am prepared to spend all the time needed to do this. However if i am threatened by an indoension then it will be disappeared. There can be no justification for the treatment of ms. corby or that of many other hapless individuals trapped by the corrupt and self-serving indonesion government. While I agree with the sentiments from the original post, I am prepared to actively commence action against the Indonesian nation as a consequence of its illegal and improper treatment of Ms. Corby, as well as many others whosse stories have not been heard. If they wish to hurt Ms. Corby and others, then I will make the bastards scream!

I have travelled to bali and felt like it was heaven on earth but after the treatment of a fellow aussie,a tourist destination? my money will either stay home or be well spent else where, this is barbaric and in humane,long live Ms Corby,love peace and freedom be with you

Oh this is just disgraceful.
Can you pull this comment thread now Wangst? It was funny but now i think i might have dangerously high blood pressure. People actually believe this stuff, like for real.

I am so pissed off to be reminded at the concerntration of hypocritical morons there are who are addicted to googling Schapelle Corby and then not even reading what the hell has been written. AND THEN, behaving like some fucking nazi bloody anarchists and declaring war on Indonesia from this piss ant litte web site.

KEITH (you fucking twit)... do you really honestly think YOU are going to acheive anything??? Do you think you're helping Schapelle Corby's cause by behaving like a manical nationalist nutcase?

My favourite bit in your insane rant was where you told us to keep our poorly informed opinions to ourselves unless we wanted to help Schapelle...cos then its alright. Bring on the bullshit racist half truths as long as they make those nasty Indonesians look subhuman! Well, guess what, if half the people in this country are anything like you (and, as evidenced by this website, they are) then, you will have no problem rallying up your band of white sheet wearing vigilantes, as is your want.

You, my firend, are so stupid. SO stupid and i feel really sorry for you.

Im sorry that you are so severely delluded. Im sorry that you feel disempowered. I'm sorry that you are a symptom of a very real problem- a culture of complete fuckwits who cannot see past their own imagining.

Keith, I am sorry that you a product of a society that tollerates and even condones your point of view to justify its own means. I am sorry that you don't understand- but, in the context of the original article posted here, that is because you are clearly illiterate with no sense of irony.

In that case, since you are clearly illiterate and you dont understand, perhaps you should just shut your face.

People are so thick- i have so much loathing for you trash, but can you really blame me? I am never going to ever get laid again because my perception of people has been so poisoned by the twats who post on this site that i just couldnt stand that kind of corporal contact. I blame you people for my inability to maintain a relationship.

I am so broken by you people.

Go see End of Fashion, theyre very good and the lead singer gives me spontaneous orgasms. True.

Keith, apart from missing the whole point of this site, it is idiots like you that either inspire or are responsible for events happening like
""If Schapelle Corby is not released immediately you will all receive one of these bullets through the brain," The Australian newspaper quoted the letter as saying."
Take your racism up the ass buddy and use all this power you perceive you have to do something useful or at least funny

Keith, you have to sit back and ask yourself: is this airheaded little bimbo really worth it? All your campaign is going to achieve is damaging the aussie tourism industry when the rest of the world doesn't want anything to do with you loudmouth nazi rednecks.

Keith you are an idiot. Here is a brilliant idea: why don't you send a letter with 2 bullets in it to the Indonesian consulate. Oh wait...

It's nice to see all the messages of support telling Schapelle to keep her chin up. I'm sure it's what keeps her going on those lonely days she spends in a concrete cell with nothing else to do but Google herself. Here's the deal - she didn't do it, and she will be locked up for life. Yes it sucks but life sucks. If you feel like getting off your arse and lobbying someone then do. Alternatively you could donate $100 and save the lives of dozens of children in Africa who don't get to go on overseas holidays, instead of a single fucking beauty therapist who was in the wrong place at the wrong time. We all run the gauntlet of life, some of us live a charmed existence where nice things fall in our lap, and some of us get Leukemia and die a horrible death before we learn to wank. Schapelle is one poor statistic, not the greatest injustice of the modern age.

poor corby.. sorry to let you down guys--racist aussie... you may scream, yell each other, but there's nothing you can do... she's dying anyway bcoz of her foolish.. and know what.. Howard won't dare to stop aid to Indonesia.. lucky them.. pothead aussie

keith weinman why did you have to post your appallingly crap comment TWICE so it wasted two times as much space? you fucking appallingly crap chump. what are you keith?
huh?
i said, "WHAT ARE YOU, KEITHY BOY?"
An appallngly crap chump, thats right. thats more like it. now go brush your teeth its time for beddybyes you cheeky little scamp. run along now.
ha ha aww i love that little guy!
simmachine :-)

does anyone want to go to a foreign country to be held in a prison and be killed or held in prison for life? innocent or guilty? cos it wont matter with an Indonesian judicial system! Corby, drug smuggler or not, does not look like any pothead I have ever met. she looks too normal. however I cant rule out the possibility that she did. I would have thought that, as a beautician, her drug of choice would have been gossip. WE TRUST BAGGAGE HANDLERS TOO MUCH. we all should know that you must lock your bag somehow to protect your possesions inside. this means that it is all too easy to place your item in someone elses bag. In the US valuable items are stolen from unlocked luggage all the time. this can only be done by baggage handlers. They are the only people who possibly could. This means that there is reasonable doubt in the case of schapelle corby. If the bag was not locked, then there is reasonable doubt. If the bag was locked then i would say that she deserves what she gets. This is not the case. No one can prove she did it. No one can prove she didnt. THEREFORE she should be considered INNOCENT.

I knew I didnt imagine this...

"A Singapore Court has handed down the death sentence on a Melbourne man convicted of drug trafficking. Nguyen Tuong Van, 23, was arrested at Singapore airport in December 2002."

http://www.phaseloop.com/foreignprisoners/news-singapore11.html

Where is the 'Save Nguyen Tuong Van' support crew? All I remember was seeing his mother balling her ass off on TV last year. Oh wait, hes just an Asian who was BORN in Australian, I forgot its differnet.

Who the fuck are we to tell the Indonesians how to run their country? Its an outrage if an outsider tells us what to do, beit the UN or a stupid American trying to weigh in on the federal election.

Baggin the INdonesian judicial system is all well and good, there is no doubt its still suffering from corruption, but why compare it to the Bali Bomb trials? Death for drug trafficing has been a long standing law in Indonesia, while terrorism laws were only enacted since bombs have started going off (as is the case in most countries). So how often do laws get enacted retrospectively? Almost never. Some Australians act like Indonesia is there to serve them.

boss...what if you were an accidental drug smuggler? is it fair in any country for you to die for it? what if you intentionally tried to smuggle drugs overseas? do you deserve to die for that? Regardless of laws standing in that particular country? You forget that drugs are much more likely to come out of indonesia to australia than the other way around.

Uhhmm, I'm I alone here or is it the fact that there are really dumb, stupid dickheads posting here -- It must have been said over a dozen times that the pot was found INBOUND to asia not OUTBOUND. Not even a retarded, down syndrome moogle would think of spending $30-40,000 and taking it to Indonesia to give it away. Unless you where terminally ill and no one in Australia would euthanase you, but then there are better ways to kill yourself. Come on, and stowing in a fucking obvious boogie board too, Ohh this is to much, even an IQ above 80 would reason how stupid this all looks (yes my spelling is equaly retarded -difference is I dont care to check). Sorry - but the average human can see how fucked up this is, and the average indonesian wants here killed, they have been rallying for her death in the streets - this proves that the flat nosed, pig headed sub humans they are are not even close to homo sapian standard. Lets all just turn our backs on these retarded countries, after all the world is a big place and there are plenty of places to spend our tourist dollers where we are liked and respected as human beings.

Ohh yeah, and as for the vietnamese fool that got killed - Big difference you ignorant shit. He had smack taped to his body - oh I supposed an air hostess stripped him and planted it there in his sleep. But hey - I do admit that killing him is harsh, but he 1. knew the risk. 2. was prepared to do it. 3. failed - his fault.

Nice Boss. Well said.

Neb-We already know the answers to your superfluous rhetoric. We've moved on from there. Those questions don't help anybody- i suggest you reread Boss' contribution and perhaps an earlier one of mine (from April 6) so you can get back up to speed with a relevant perspective. If youre still not happy then you'll know youre missing the point.

good luck.

Nice Boss. Well said.

Neb-We already know the answers to your superfluous rhetoric. We've moved on from there. Those questions don't help anybody- i suggest you reread Boss' contribution and perhaps an earlier one of mine (from April 6) so you can get back up to speed with a relevant perspective. If youre still not happy then you'll know youre missing the point.

good luck.

Some points:

1. People do stupid things. What about the guy in a wheelchair who tried to roll a chemist using a small knife. LOL. Sure, if Corby did smuggle the pot, she was stupid to do so. That doesn't mean she's not guilty. It's only one of the factors to be considered.
2. Indonesia is a sovereign country with a democratically elected government. They make their own laws. We have NO RIGHT to disrespect those laws just because we disagree with them. True, in Australia, you'd get a good behaviour bond for smuggling 4kg of pot. Maybe that's why we have such a huge drug problem here! I'm not suggesting we should have the death penalty. But if that's what Indonesia wants, that's what they have. It's THEIR LAND and THEIR LAW.
3. Does the rogue-bagage-handler theory provide a reasonable doubt in Corby's case? That's a question for the Court, not for us. We haven't heard all the evidence. The court has to make up its mind based on all the evidence before it. Including Corby's oral testimony, her demeanor, the demeanor of all the witnesses, consistency between various pieces of evidence, and many other factors. The evidence of Ford (the guy who apparently overheard a conversation about these drugs in a Victoria prison) must also be considered. The court will look at him making a bail application upon his return to Australia (unsuccessful bail application) on the basis that his life is in danger now that he's testified for Corby. Could he be making all this up?
4. Is the Indonesian standard of criminal proof "beyond-reasonable-doubt" in any event? We don't know. Our media are very limited in their research and information about the case. Maybe the standard is on a balance of probabilities? Maybe this is a strict liability offence (where you don't have to prove intention at all), maybe it's an offence where the onus of proof is on the defence (disproving guilt).
5. If you were awaiting a prosecution decision about your life and death, would you ever say you're too sick to hear that decision (like Corby did, at least at the first adjournment; the second one was where she fainted) or would you just WANT TO KNOW? Could this be a tactic to buy some time and keep asking the Australian Government to intervene (apparently the first intervention by Ellison didn't do much)?
6. Should the Oz Govt intervene anyway? It's not our place to do so. I don't care how much we've helped Indonesia with its humanitarian crisis. What some here are suggesting is basically bribery. We either respect the Indonesian legal system as that of a sovereign country and help Corby raise funds for her defence to ensure she gets a fair trial OR we start to dictate to the Indonesians how they are to run their country. If an Indonesian gets charged with an offence down here, you don't see their entire diplomatic corp coming to Australia to try to heavy-hand our government to drop the charges. Imagine the outcry THAT would create!
7. Daz and Neb: Disgraceful and racist comments you two are making are NOT HELPING Corby's case. Neither is the terrorist threat against the Indo consulate in Perth. You MORONS are sending out the message that Australia considers Indonesia to be substandard both legally and as human beings and that you have absolutely no respect for their laws and their national sovereignty. This simply can't be good.
8. Do you deserve to die for smuggling drugs? This can be argued both ways. One can say that drugs have a devastating effect on the individual and the community at large. They kill people, promote violent crime, lead to poverty, psychosis, low self esteem, impotance, all sorts of things. Yes, even pot. Not saying I agree with the death penalty here. Just saying it's not as trivial as some might think. Given a good chance to argue it can CERTAINLY be justifiable, at least to those who accept death as a penalty at all. In some Australian jurisdictions the max penalty for large quantities of drugs is tantamount to life imprisonment. Given we don't have the death penalty, this means we do provide the ultimate penalty for drugs!

Simmachine- before you yell at me for posting that twice..i swear it was an accident!! And,m just to annoy you and take up more space im writing this little appology.

Im also going to take this opportunity to say this....Pink Floyd is pretencious wank.

Thankyou.

A Responce for the Ponce;

1. Just because someone makes a stupid mistake it doesnt mean they should lose their life for it..law or not, we cannot condone a world where absolute perfection must be maintained at ALL costs. The law should be used as a guideline to make sensible decisions which would not have adverse affects on society. However, she is yet to be found guilty so enough said.
2. Wrong. We have every right to disrespect the laws of another country. The point of living and voting in Australia is so that we live in a society we CHOSE. However, if we are dumb enough to purposefully dsirecpect a countrys laws that we are visiting, then we should expect the consequences associated with those laws. Everybody has a choice. Freedom of speech in regards to disagreeing with another countrys laws is not stupid, even if a little small minded.
3. I disagree with the promotion of leaving everything to the courts. How can we maintain our chosen society if we turn our backs and hope for the best. It's important to be aware of everything going on and call the government out on anything disagreeable.
4. Again, leaving everything up to someone else is a major error. If we are form an opinion of the Corby case and make brash statements about terrorism etc, it is our duty to inform ourselves of the facts. Relying on the media would be foolish at best.
5. The law is stretched and manipulated every which way from both prosecutors and defendants. I wouldn't necessarily blame a foreigner in another country buying time, if that is even what she is doing.
6. Oh sure, I agree.. lets abandon our citizens based on their whereabouts on the globe. (*SARCASM*) ?Storming in to another country and demanding they do things our way is hardly the answer though. Its not a game of marbles in a schoolyard, we should be able to come to some mutually acceptable agreement between the countries if we truly disagree with the outcome. You seem to favour turning a blind eye to everything which I find highly hazardous and irresponsible. I hope you're not a voter..
7. I don't think censoring opinions, as unfounded as they may be, is a good idea. If we were to live this way the world would still be flat. Then again whoever said listening to a pole was a good idea :P If you disagre with someones comments, a) respond or b) dont vote for them!
8. The punishment should fit the crime. Our society equates it to something different than the death penalty. Its unfair to impose a sentence that hefty to a visitor to the country. She had no say in the government, was probably unaware of the laws and the Australian government should not let the maximum penalty be imposed. Doing it by force is wrong, if we as a people believed that then we would have our own hitler, or saddam or BUSH. As a c ountry we have a duty to our people to find the fairest resolutions to our problems as possible, and simply because she is overseas does not mean she is not our problem.

Sorry for my typos.. lets hope I dont get life.

This is starting to scare me. Go away. All of you.

Kip:

1. Heavily penalising drug smugglers isn't necessarily bad for society.
2. By "we" I meant Australia, not individual morons.
3. The verdict IS up to the court. You can't decide about reasonable doubt unless you're privy to the evidence.
4. Correct. Can't rely on the media. All discussions and debates MUST be suspended until we obtain a revised transcript of the proceedings in Corby's case.
5. Who said I was blaming her? Just making an observation. Again, it looks like her defence team is trying to pressure our government to pressure their government. All up this may well work against her.
6. I said let's provide financial assistance to her legal team. NOT abandon her. But pressuring another state to step aside from their laws is basically wrong.
7. Freedom of speech is good. But there are limits. One is defamation. Another is racial vilification. And that's what those two morons were doing; vilifying Indonesians.
8. Again, an argument can be mounted that death does fit the crime of drug smuggling. After all, as i said, our penalties in Australia for drugs do go up as high as ones for murder! As for foreigners, that's flawed. Ignorance is no excuse. Again, the fact that she's a foreigner should be taken into account on the plea. But you can't have a blanket policy of treating foreigners more leniently.

As an example see: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,12864869-2,00.html
Aussie convicted for gay crime in Fiji. Australian Govt intervenes but does not mention anything about disagreeing with punishing gays. Its intervention is limited to the issue of the defendant's lack of consular access as per international agreements. Respecting Fijian laws.

marty, i guess you are the only smartest guy here, fair and hopefully non-racist aussie.

Come on man, No one would seriously take pot "INTO" Bali. Let alone take 4 kilo's.

As everyone know's it's shit cheap and how r u possibly going to sell it for a profit When it grows everywhere in the jungle?

I think there's no way that Schapelle Corby is guilty and it nearly brings me to tears that the Australian government has done nothing to (seriously) help this girl.

Think about this for one sec... You're trying to bring drugs into a foriegn country for a profit. Here's a couple of things:

1. Why smuggle pot? It's the easiest drug for the dogs to detect and will yeild the least profit. There's also shitloads of it in Indonesia anyway, so who's going to buy it for the same price you paid in QLD?

2. Hiding it in the front pocket of a bodyboard bag? Even if she was a 24/7 stoner, even that is to retarded to fathom. Wouldnt you at least hide it in the board and then heat seal it back up? Come on!

3. 4 Kilos? The girl's a goldcoast beauty worker not an investment banker. Where's she going to whip up that sort of cash? Also She lives at home with her folks so she may have a hard time stashing 4 kilos of weed. Y'think?!

Unfortunatley she's now a victim of the drug trade and Indonesia is trying to make an example out of her. She will recieve no help from the Australian government as Australia already has strained relations with Indonesia and are scared that if they put pressure on them they may lose some trade or political deals or what have you.
What we need is people to act and not get nonchalant. Write to your local council member NOT JH. Believe it or not they CAN put pressure on the government on your behalf to do something about Schapelles case.

Like it or not we live in a very different Australia. It's now OK to be suspicious of foreigners or to hate people of colour or different beliefs and you can thank the liberals right-wing, head in the sand, 1960's attitude for that. Let this be a lesson to you all that the government WILL NOT come to your aid unless there is something directly in it for them.

Now dont get me wrong, I love Australia and there are plenty of decent people Still left here. It's just that the extreme right now run the country and if we want change we must take it for ourselves.

Having said that I thank god everyday that I'm also a Canadian citzen and that if I was ever in a political jam I know I could always rely on the Canadian government to put a citzen before political gain.

Daveo

You've raised some valid points about Corby's guilt (or lack thereof). Indeed, these are the very points that hopefully were relied on by her defence team. The court will need to consider all those points and see how they fit in with the evidence in the case.

Yes, drugs are cheaper in Indonesia than they are in Australia. Yes, presumably Corby would have trouble raising the sort of cash we're talking about. I don't know if it's the prosecution's case that she bought them herself. I don't know what the prosecution's case is. As stated earlier, we're fed very limited stuff by the media; mostly pro-Corby stuff. In these circumstances you can't make any conclusions. Ultimately, the court has to decide.

Give me one example of the Canadian (or Australian) government interfering to any substantial extent with the judicial process in a criminal trial of another sovereign country, relationship strained or not. The government can't just turn around and tell Indonesia it has no faith in its justice system. In fact, why should it not have faith in Indonesia's justice system? From what we see (and again, our press is very limited here), the trial is a typical inquisitorial process with effectively no rules of evidence. So far, it has worked much in Corby's favour as you'd never be able to get John Ford's evidence admitted into an Australian (or Canadian) court (it's HEARSAY).

Having myself worked as a lawyer in the criminal justice system for some years now I can tell you that people do absolutely moronic things. People kill others with no apparent motive and without making the slightest attempt (or very inept attempts) to cover their crime. Stupidity and lack of valid motive are not a defence. They're merely one small element in the process.

To contrast your motive-related speculations, there's been some strong evidence implicating Corby. She was found in possession of a large quantity of drugs. She was reluctant to open her bag upon request and appeared flustered. Calling John Ford as a witness may have been a forensic mistake. I have serious doubts about that guy's credit. He seems to have bought himself a bail application (which he lost anyway).

All these things are matters for the court to consider. Our government can't interfere with that. All our government could do was to make sure that matters are put the best way on Corby's behalf in the proper forum - the District Court. Given her large funding and skilled legal team, that has been done.

I actually appreciated reading that post...I have read so much shit about people saying they feel sorry for her (dont get me wrong though! I feel for her strongly.) But I liked the bluntness of that point of view. I totally agree that Indonesia needs to go and get fucked. ITS FUCKING WEED. For fucks sake. If she got caught with it here, she'd most likely get a slap on the wrist and 20 hours community service. How can two law systems be so god damn different? It's called morals and the fucking indonesian's dont have any. The thing I can't get my head around is the method of death if she is sentenced...Death by firing squad hey? Those creepy, sly, brutal fucks. I've heard a lot of people say. "One thing happens to an Australian and then the whole of Australia is only NOW realising that this brutality of the death sentence in places like Indonesia."
And this is so true. Now it's seriously time to wake up and smell the fucking roses. I detest every form of legal system to has this immoral law.
If Schapelle Corby gets the death penalty, and Australia keeps helping out Indonesia with cash, im fucking moving to Canada.

1. Wait for the court to make a decision before you go off on a tirade about Indonesia.

2. Short of being a diplomat, every foreigner has to respect a countries laws. Alexander downer actually made a bright comment today that we should let this case run its course.

3. No matter how sweet and inncoent a gold coast hairdresser may be, there is the simple truth that 4.5 kg of weed was found in her luggage at an Indo airport. How it got there will be found out in the courtroom.

4. All these Corby supporters complain about the immorality of the death sentence. BOllox, thats not really why your angry becuase, as I posted before, there other Australians facing the death penalty. And I bet you wanted the Bali Bopmbers shot too. Double Standards.

5. Thinking that Indonesia is making an example of this to spite Australia is utter crap. Consider the aid we've given to Aceh, the new security agreeement, and the fact the Presidents son is being educated in Melbourne. Some people are looking for reasons that Aust would be 'victimised'.

6. DIckheads sending bullets and threats to the Indo consulate are using 'violence to influence a political situation', what is the word that best describes that again? They are no better than the other wankers doing it around the world.

I actually believe that she probably is innocent. How about some level headedness from people instead of busting the stitches on your wifebeater singlets in outrage as you watch the Ch7 news? Im living in Indonesia at the moment, people are not marching in the streets, and its bloody embarrassing trying to explain why people back home are threatening the Indo consulate.

Guess what I just discovered? When a comments thread gets larger then 80, the page gives up and stops working. The long and the short of it is that i am going to have to close this comments thread. Take the conversation somewhere else.